somethin to make ya think

XRaptorX · Post by **XRaptorX** » 12 Jul 2004, 16:12

I would say that Spielberg must take more time for the 4.th movie...he has to ask Jeff Goldblum; Richard Attenborough and eira Knightley for roles, I haven`t a problem with the `fact`, that Steven gives Keira the character of Arianas...

Dino_Slayer · Post by **Dino_Slayer** » 19 Jul 2004, 14:15

This may be an old post,but heres my thoughts anyway.Why wouldnt they simply ask what the fans want and put the ideas in the film?I,for one,would want the Dilophosaurus to return,as well as the T-rex and have Sam Neill in a cameo role.Or,they could simply ask Crichton for more ideas.How does that sound?

pack raptor · Post by **pack raptor** » 19 Jul 2004, 15:46

[QUOTE](Dino_Slayer Posted on 07.19.2004 14:15)
This may be an old post,but heres my thoughts anyway.Why wouldnt they simply ask what the fans want and put the ideas in the film?

Oh that's simple, just imagine if you were a writer or a director trying that was working on a sequel to a popular film franchise. Now, consider the fact that fanatics on message boards always feel skepticism when a sequel to their favorite franchise has been announced. People over the internet will say some pretty harsh things about movies that aren't even half way done with production yet. So why bother?

Not only that, but if you took the time to listen to alot of fanatic ideas and requests, you'll find out that everyone is shouting for something different. And some people just come up with some of the most ridiculous ideas for a JP sequel that you'll just be wasting your time. So I can understand why most film makers don't request fan input, because as a film maker, you'll just stress yourself out, lose sleep, and come to the set a little more irratable and unfocused than you were the day before.

Raptor Attack · Post by **Raptor Attack** » 19 Jul 2004, 17:12

I agree completely....that's the ebst idea I've heard yet!!!

pack raptor · Post by **pack raptor** » 19 Jul 2004, 18:35

Are you being sarcastic ?

Dino_Slayer · Post by **Dino_Slayer** » 20 Jul 2004, 07:27

I didnt mean that the makers would ask the fans about the plot but rather about what they would want to see in the film,like dinosaurs,characters,scenes,stuff like that.

pack raptor · Post by **pack raptor** » 20 Jul 2004, 11:04

QUOTE (Dino_Slayer Posted on 07.20.2004 07:27)
I didnt mean that the makers would ask the fans about the plot but rather about what they would want to see in the film,like dinosaurs,characters,scenes,stuff like that.[/quote](pack raptor Posted on 07.19.2004 15:46)
Not only that, but if you took the time to listen to alot of fanatic ideas and requests, you'll find out that everyone is shouting for something different.

^ This statement still applies to what you're talking about.

[QUOTE](pack raptor Posted on 07.19.2004 15:46 )
So I can understand why most film makers don't request fan input, because as a film maker, you'll just stress yourself out, lose sleep, and come to the set a little more irratable and unfocused than you were the day before.

^And so does this.

I think a quote from Spider-man 1&2 director Sam Raimi gives the best explanation why alot of film makers don't ask the fans what they want to see.The following is an excerpt from an article in Wizard magazine interviewing Sam Raimi:

"I've always considered myself not as an artist, but as an entertainer. I want to please the audience. I want to wow them and thrill them and make them cry - I live for that.The fan's opinion is so important to me that I'm afraid of being influenced by them. I thought that was happening on the first film. I saw them very critical of things I was doing and it caused me tremendous anxiety, so many sleepless nights and so much angst. These fans were just communicating with each other with anger or vengeance or with humor or irony, but I took it so personally because they would dissect the ideas of the movie. I just found myself so wanting to please them and being so contradictory and so vengeful, and sometimes, I read these chat messages and they were so ... they basically can get ugly. So for 'Spider-Man 2,' I didn't want to be upset and influenced by these messages. I just felt that for me, to do my job the best, to work outside of earshot of the fans and then, absolutely, get all of their input once the movie is made to see if they liked it or didn't. It was the healthiest way for me to work." - Sam Raimi

I think Spider-Man 2 came out as a better film than the original partly because Sam had a more focused mind because he didn't listen to a bunch of fans being super critical of everything he did.

Dino_Slayer · Post by **Dino_Slayer** » 21 Jul 2004, 07:35

I think your right.There has been some movies that were based on the fans ideas but,if I remember right,those films didnt really turn out good.

But how about asking Crichton's opinion?I'm sure that the writer of the two novels could invent something.