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Posted: 26 Jun 2005, 09:38
by Deepu_ravi
yeah
Posted: 26 Jun 2005, 16:11
by Eva
I dunno a lot about the actual scientific part of creating a real JP... but one thing I know about is something that was actually mentioned in the LW novel... a reason why JP kinda failed... Sarah had seen the velociraptors (which were really deinonychus btw) fighting over the food and how they were so little young etc. The point about that was that these creatures are alive on the planet once again. They're not the first of their kind. The problem in brining back an extinct creature is that they have no one to teach them how they're supposed to act naturally. The dinosaurs have been extint for many years. When bringing one back to exisitance, it has no one to teach it how to behave. It will just decide how it wants to act and it ends up teaching that to its young and before you know it, you have a whole group of these animals but not the way they would have acted back when they were still alive. You think you're looking at the real thing, but it's not acting the way the real thing normally acted.
The raptors were so vicious and brutal in the books and movies becuz that's how they taught themselves to be and then passed it on to the next generation that survived. Perhaps they were loving caring parents like they somewhat were in the first novel. But they wouldn't know that becuz the first one made didn't have someone to teach him/her that.
So that's a view I have on making a real JP.
Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 03:26
by nissin
Hi "Eva"
Thaks SO much for mentioning that point, but you're the the first to say so... (I made the same point in this forum, maybe a few pages back)...
It seems to me that you're the ONLY one who has understood that point, and perhaps people will go back, read my points made (again) and maybe even understand them properly.
But as you've said it, I agree with you... and no one else has even said anything about it.
You need to look back at maybe a parent or something that knows how to ACT like a dinosaur, but we can't do that becuase they have been dead for so long and so even whatever we TRY to do won't help...
Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 10:04
by Eva
*high fives* go us! /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />
I dunno why no one else gets that. It made perfect sense to me... seriously, think about it. If you grew up without a parent to teach you anything about the way you're supposed to act, would you have turned out the way you are now? Probably not. *shrugs* It's so simple.
Posted: 28 Jun 2005, 22:59
by Tyrannis
The question is how much of what they do is instinct and doesn't need to be taught? We don't know but my bet is a very large portion of it is.
Posted: 29 Jun 2005, 02:23
by nissin
I'm sure there is a even portion of the mind, which will rely on learning as you grow.
Posted: 29 Jun 2005, 11:43
by Deepu_ravi
instincts i think will play a major role in behaviour of an organism like dinosaur.if you look at crocs the mother croc don't teach their children how to hunt,how to behave and so on.i think it will be the same with dinosaurs also
Posted: 29 Jun 2005, 14:16
by Tyrannis
Very true, although maybe some of the pack hunters might need to learn a few things but that's teachable by humans if we were to enforce a hieracrchy on the first generation then they would do the same thing all the way down the line. It may not be the same as what is was when they were actually alive but it'll work for them to survive now
Posted: 29 Jun 2005, 14:28
by Garfielosaurus_rex
Maybe the behavior of the dinosaurs can be in some parts, give by the parents. For example, the hunt could be very important to be given by mothers for a predator like Velociraptor. But the dinosaurs are very different of modern animals.
Posted: 30 Jun 2005, 01:55
by nissin
have you guys looked at your points closely...?