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Jack Horner talks JPIV!

Posted: 26 Oct 2003, 13:42
by lilgamefreek
I heard the size thing on some thread from nagisa. Man he never did return when the site changed. /sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":(" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

Jack Horner talks JPIV!

Posted: 26 Oct 2003, 15:45
by Chaotic_Baryonyx
I bet, if they put in Lizardmen in JP4, but don't name 'em in the movie, nobody will be able to distuingish them from the Raptors, who are basically Lizardmen to begin with now.

Jack Horner talks JPIV!

Posted: 26 Oct 2003, 23:54
by OneWingSephiroth
I'm really tired of Horner's belief's they really do make the paleontology world look bad, considering all the evidence that proves T-Rex was a very adequate hunter, and so far, not a single thing about if the Spino was even a hunter of dinosaurs.

I'm not saying that Spino couldn't hunt, but the matter of meaning is that during Spino's time, Charcharadontosaurus was the biggest and largest predatory dinosaur and it would've been the most dominant predator in what is now Africa. Largest predatory dinosaur, not very true, longest...maybe, seems Spino did have a long vertebrae with the majority of its length being its tail, this gives way for a large size. Remember that an Allosaurus could even reach lengths of up to 40ft but is nowhere near as large as a T-Rex. Spino is also nowhere near built or as massed as the three contending giant predators(T-Rex, Giganotosaurus, and Charcharadontosaurus).

Also Spino's body frame was more thin and narrow, like that of Dilophosaurus, being very slender for such a large predator, this would've made it very light. Some people may say that this would've made it faster, this however is not necessarily true, Thomas R. Holtz Jr. did a tremendous amount of recearch on T-Rex and many other giant theropod dinosaurs legs, and he found out that T-Rex had the most advanced and equipped leg for running out of the giant theropod dinosaurs.

Understand that Spinosaurus was not the dominant predator during its time, that title belonged to Charcharadontosaurus. T-Rex was very capable of hunting, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it scavenged, what true predator would pass up a free meal.

I just don't know why Horner doesn't see that their are evidence of T-Rex on the hunt, and yet he still stubbornly clinches onto the facts that Rex was a scavenger. He states that T-Rex can't hunt at all period, nor run as well, only having a good scent of smell. It almost seems like he doesn't want to look on the other side of the book.

My saying is, when your a paleontologist, your supposed to find the most accurate theory and solution to prehistoric life, Horner seems to make remarks without enough hard evidence, and even when their are evidence to prove it wrong, he still believes and states it publicly that what he said is still real.

I do say that he did bring up alot of good things, but he should just confess that T-Rex was very capable of hunting, if he would admit that his pure scavenger theory wasn't precise and incorrect, I would give the guy credit for admiting that the did something wrong, heck, we all do in life, but he has to still go rampaging on, telling everyone that T-Rex is overrated.

My saying is, their better not be any Lizardmen in JPIV, otherwise, it ain't JP anymore, it'll be just some ludacrious garbage that has JP stamped on it...honestly, JPIII really made me frustrated, and it made a really good series go bitter, I want IV to do it justice, and this time around, find another consultant other than Horner, their are much better and more open minded paleontologist out their who look at both sides of the box.

Jack Horner talks JPIV!

Posted: 28 Oct 2003, 00:25
by AlphaRaptor^2003
</font><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="85%" align="center"><tr><td><font class="small">Quoting :</font><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" border="0" background="#111111" bgcolor="#111111" width="100%"><tr><td><table cellpading="3" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"><tr><td class="darktable"><font class="small">I'm really tired of Horner's belief's they really do make the paleontology world look bad, considering all the evidence that proves T-Rex was a very adequate hunter, and so far, not a single thing about if the Spino was even a hunter of dinosaurs.

I'm not saying that Spino couldn't hunt, but the matter of meaning is that during Spino's time, Charcharadontosaurus was the biggest and largest predatory dinosaur and it would've been the most dominant predator in what is now Africa. Largest predatory dinosaur, not very true, longest...maybe, seems Spino did have a long vertebrae with the majority of its length being its tail, this gives way for a large size. Remember that an Allosaurus could even reach lengths of up to 40ft but is nowhere near as large as a T-Rex. Spino is also nowhere near built or as massed as the three contending giant predators(T-Rex, Giganotosaurus, and Charcharadontosaurus).

Also Spino's body frame was more thin and narrow, like that of Dilophosaurus, being very slender for such a large predator, this would've made it very light. Some people may say that this would've made it faster, this however is not necessarily true, Thomas R. Holtz Jr. did a tremendous amount of recearch on T-Rex and many other giant theropod dinosaurs legs, and he found out that T-Rex had the most advanced and equipped leg for running out of the giant theropod dinosaurs.

Understand that Spinosaurus was not the dominant predator during its time, that title belonged to Charcharadontosaurus. T-Rex was very capable of hunting, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it scavenged, what true predator would pass up a free meal.

I just don't know why Horner doesn't see that their are evidence of T-Rex on the hunt, and yet he still stubbornly clinches onto the facts that Rex was a scavenger. He states that T-Rex can't hunt at all period, nor run as well, only having a good scent of smell. It almost seems like he doesn't want to look on the other side of the book.

My saying is, when your a paleontologist, your supposed to find the most accurate theory and solution to prehistoric life, Horner seems to make remarks without enough hard evidence, and even when their are evidence to prove it wrong, he still believes and states it publicly that what he said is still real.

I do say that he did bring up alot of good things, but he should just confess that T-Rex was very capable of hunting, if he would admit that his pure scavenger theory wasn't precise and incorrect, I would give the guy credit for admiting that the did something wrong, heck, we all do in life, but he has to still go rampaging on, telling everyone that T-Rex is overrated.

My saying is, their better not be any Lizardmen in JPIV, otherwise, it ain't JP anymore, it'll be just some ludacrious garbage that has JP stamped on it...honestly, JPIII really made me frustrated, and it made a really good series go bitter, I want IV to do it justice, and this time around, find another consultant other than Horner, their are much better and more open minded paleontologist out their who look at both sides of the box. </td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr></table><font class="post">


....Bravo! eat that Horner!! :grin:

Jack Horner talks JPIV!

Posted: 02 Nov 2003, 18:59
by crisco
i dont think he meant "wait for JPIV" about the lizard people i thought he meant wait for JPIV about the mass extinction of dinos, anyway: if there ARE lizard people its not Horner's fault, he has nothing to do with the plot, Speilberg built a plot of MC's idea and Monahan is writing it, does anyone REALLY think Speilberg would have man-dinos?

Jack Horner talks JPIV!

Posted: 04 Nov 2003, 00:48
by sPitter of the Rats
Ok, I realize that Lizard people sound corny, but after 3 unsuccessful outings to those islands, this story really needs to evolve.

It won't be JP anymore? It'll be crap with JP stamped on it? Well, no, I figure the 3rd sequel should have come a long way since the original flick. Personally, I think most of you guys are just to afraid of change to embrace anything different from what we've been getting. Well what have we been getting? Nobody liked TLW until JP3 came and outsucked it.

Well damn it, maybe dinosauroids are a stupid direction! Maybe this film will be the laughingstock of Universal in 2005! But I am too sick of hordes of idiots going to an island against the will of the smartest ones and getting wittled down by the same damn dangers!

Jack Horner talks JPIV!

Posted: 04 Nov 2003, 13:26
by Chaotic_Baryonyx
Am I the only one who sees the JP3 Raptors are Lizardpeople to begin with?

Jack Horner talks JPIV!

Posted: 05 Nov 2003, 18:24
by AllosaurAl
</font><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="85%" align="center"><tr><td><font class="small">Quoting :</font><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" border="0" background="#111111" bgcolor="#111111" width="100%"><tr><td><table cellpading="3" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%"><tr><td class="darktable"><font class="small">The only way Horner should be involved is to have him giving a speech about the Tyrannosaurus (explaning how it was not a hunter, of course), and then have the T. rex come through the wall and eat him. </td></tr></table></td></tr></table></td></tr></table><font class="post">

Heh, that would make the movie for me. /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />
I'd go just to see that part. /biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":D" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" />

Jack Horner talks JPIV!

Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 18:12
by Mr. DNA
lol me too

Jack Horner talks JPIV!

Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 22:00
by Tyrannis
I would buy 3 copies of the movie just to see it in diiferent angles