Spino wasn't from ingen

glenne · Post by **glenne** » 28 Jul 2005, 07:52

jo, in jp3 billy sais that the spino wasn't on the list of ingen, my question is where did the spino came from?

SSJDinoTycoon42 · Post by **SSJDinoTycoon42** » 28 Jul 2005, 08:22

they said it wasn't on their list, but then Grant says that it makes you wonder what else they were up to, meaning they were working on secret projects that no one else knew about

glenne · Post by **glenne** » 28 Jul 2005, 08:38

thanks, another link to jurassic park 4:p, just like the embryo's from nedry

SSJDinoTycoon42 · Post by **SSJDinoTycoon42** » 28 Jul 2005, 08:41

well actually, the embryos would have died because they needed to be cooled, and Dodgson said there was only enough coolant inside the container to last like 12 hours or something like that.

glenne · Post by **glenne** » 28 Jul 2005, 09:13

yes, but when the embryo's fell they were burried under mud. or something like that

SSJDinoTycoon42 · Post by **SSJDinoTycoon42** » 28 Jul 2005, 09:34

yes...but it was WARM mud /smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> and it still wouldn't be cold enough

uh, the other secret projects might have just been the raptors actually

but hey, anything's possible

Tyrannosaur · Post by **Tyrannosaur** » 28 Jul 2005, 12:06

Spinosaurus wasn't always viewed as the way it is today, the crocodillian Baryonyx head and so forth. Older and incorrect pictures protray the animal with a T.rex looking head and related to Acrocanthosaurus, especially pictures from the 1980s. It's possible that InGen classified their Spinosaurus as a Baryonyx as no one knew what the skull of a Spinosaurus should look like going off the information above. InGen could have managed to clone both Baryonyx and Spinosaurus, yet classified them both as Baryonyx because of the matching skulls when they were infants. Infant Spinosaurs probably wouldn't have the recognizable sail either when they first hatched.

The different Raptors I believe holds up the Version Number evidence, but I view them as a seperate species from the JP Raptors. Those Raptors in JP3 were probably closer to the actual animal. The different Pteranodons are probably an older version number of the blue Pteranodons seen in TLW.

The embryos are rather an unimportant plot point especially with InGen's involvement in The Lost World, and lack of the rival genetics company, which remains un-named in the movies I might add, in JP3. The embryos would have at least 24 hours of coolant in them to make it back to Costa Rica, by the time Nedry slipped, fell, and turned into a Dilophosaurus chew toy the coolant would be diminished, the mud would then be warm and dry also warm diminishing the can's refigerant even further.

If there is a secret project I'd think it would be something with a hybrid of sorts, maybe a dino-human hybrid, something like the chaos effect toy line dinosaurs, or whatever. It would illogical of inGen to do something like that since their original plan was to do the theme park/biological preserve setting.

lilgamefreek · Post by **lilgamefreek** » 28 Jul 2005, 12:37

glenne wrote:thanks, another link to jurassic park 4:p, just like the embryo's from nedry

Too bad Isla Nublar was practically nuked in the end.

SSJDinoTycoon42 · Post by **SSJDinoTycoon42** » 28 Jul 2005, 12:52

you're right, i was looking at this old book called the dinosaur dictionary(children's book) and i stumbled across Spinosaurus, with the short snout, sail and green skin. however, they would likely check the skeletal structure to see what species it is, and the Spinosaurus may have had the beginnings of the sail bones as bud like things. Grant's line and the lab they discover illustrate that they were puposely doing some undercover experiments. not to mention the dead baby Spinosaurus in the tank.

the raptors have been talked about in another topic and the conclusion was that they were simply designed that way as scientifically accurate without considering story continuity. but if you want to try to explain it, then your explanation is valid. there is another explanation that i came up with. they put frog DNA in the gene sequence gaps, meaning their DNA would be slightly different than the real dinosaurs. as time went by, each generation evolved closer and closer to the real raptors. that's why they weren't completely the same as the scientifically correct feather raptors. they were still in transition.

basically, after JP, the embryos mean nothing. the coolant ran out and the embryos deteriorated. being buried in mud was kind of ironic to me being that they started as fossils and are now once again in the dirt.

personally i don't like a human-dino hybrid idea /huh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":huh:" border="0" alt="huh.gif" /> it's just too crazy. but they were definitely doing something in that lab, and they kept hinting something.

after writing this i had a thought. the Compys didn't bother with humans and had no fear of them. then Deter shocks one and they considered humans a threat, therefore killing him. maybe the reason the Spinosaurus was so aggressive, was because he/she was raised in captivity and knew humans were bad news. or because it had experiments done and didn't want to go through that again. another possibility is that they did experiments on it that altered it's behavior. experiments on the brain that caused it to be overly aggressive (partly explained by the wires connected to the babies in the tanks)

Tyrannosaur · Post by **Tyrannosaur** » 28 Jul 2005, 22:18

I doubt InGen would do anything to harm those animals as they would be really expensive to reproduce again. Those wires were probably only to check vital signs of the dinosaurs. I don't think inGen nuked Isla Nublar, probably they sent a team in to see if the island could be preserved and considered it to be too dangerous and deconstructed it. I've been doing JP research for a long time now like this, actually since mid-2000.