Super Predators?

[Raptor86]

super predators is just like a subcategory of &quot;Predator&quot;.<br />I will post the other part of the book as soon as i can...

[Raptor86]

[quote author=Raptor86 link=board=19;threadid=384;start=15#7878 date=1039798890]<br /><br />Traslating from Italian:&quot; From the observation of the current animals' natural relations beetwen herbivores and carnivores, you can recontruct an energetic pyramid, in the top of which there are the superpredators, and in the base the vegetable biomass (It: biomassa). <br /><br />"><br /><hr></blockquote><br /><br />(continues from the preceding sentence) &quot;It is probable that, like today, even in the Mesozoic about 10 % of the energy moved from a level of the pyramid to an other: the herbivores dinosaurs took up the second level, the carnivores the two that follow.&quot; <br /><br />And then it says some theories by Bakker about the fact that dinosaurs were cold-blooded, and so on.<br /><br />The book is: &amp;#8220;Atlanti Scientifici Giunti: Dinosauri&amp;#8221; by Giunti Gruppo Editoriale, Firenze (Florence) 1993<br />Texts: Adriana Rigutti<br />Ilustations: Stefano Maugeri, Claudio Pasqualucci<br /><br /><br />

[Anonymous]

Even with your resources, that are good. I still don't believe SuperPredator is a realistic, or a accurate scientific term. Even the stated belief of the pyramid. The system is still Predator and Prey, I don't know of any scientist, paleontologist(maybe except Horner, but I don't really like him...mainly for his T-Rex &quot;Pure Scavenger&quot; theory), nor zoologist who uses the term SuperPredator. <br /><br />Even if the Super which you stated means, upon, or over. Well, there is no predator that is upon, nor over another predator. Lions can lose food just as well to Hyenas as Hyenas lose it to the lions, yes, Lions do however dominate more in most cases, but they are all solely predators.<br /><br />With the Super Predator, its almost saying as if the animal is the dominant predator with no equal or dominates all the time, then it comes to the predators, then to the prey.<br /><br />Plus, the term isn't a used Universal wording for predators. So to state the Lion as the SuperPredator while the Hyena is stated as Predator, but in reality we know that either animal can gain the advantage. 8)<br /><br /><br /><br />

[Mallon]

My biggest problem right now is that I don't think "super predator" is a literal translation from the text.

[Anonymous]

super predator is not used by scientists. however many paeleontologists like to call the massive predators( anything 9metres or more in lenght) of the Cretaceous &quot;the mega carnivores&quot;. it is not an official term but it is quite commonly used.<br />So the following could be accepted as &quot;mega carnivores&quot;:<br />tyrannosaurus<br />&quot;tarbosaurus&quot;<br />giganotosaurus<br />carcharodontosaurus<br />spinosaurus<br />acrocanthosaurus<br />albertosaurus*<br />suchomimus <br />bahariasaurus*<br />*=might be over 9metres long

[Paradox]

Well the term "mega carnivore" would be much more acceptable, in my opinion. This merely refers, seemingly, to the size of the animal itself, and makes no claims to its inherent abilities.

[Shark Death]

I think mega carnivore would be great. It's much more fitting.

[Raptor86]

[quote author=Mallon link=board=19;threadid=384;start=15#msg8242 date=1040046618]<br />My biggest problem right now is that I don't think &quot;super predator&quot; is a literal translation from the text.<br /><hr></blockquote><br /><br /> ???

[Anonymous]

a in iorder to be classified as a super predator, you need to be at the top of the food chain first of all and be able to hunt any animal in your domain. So hey, i guess that would make us, humans, "superpredators" correct?

[Anonymous]

[quote author=DinoSol link=board=19;threadid=384;start=15#msg8234 date=1040025858]<br />Even with your resources, that are good. I still don't believe SuperPredator is a realistic, or a accurate scientific term. Even the stated belief of the pyramid. The system is still Predator and Prey, I don't know of any scientist, paleontologist(maybe except Horner, but I don't really like him...mainly for his T-Rex &quot;Pure Scavenger&quot; theory), nor zoologist who uses the term SuperPredator. <br /><br />Even if the Super which you stated means, upon, or over. Well, there is no predator that is upon, nor over another predator. Lions can lose food just as well to Hyenas as Hyenas lose it to the lions, yes, Lions do however dominate more in most cases, but they are all solely predators.<br /><br />With the Super Predator, its almost saying as if the animal is the dominant predator with no equal or dominates all the time, then it comes to the predators, then to the prey.<br /><br />Plus, the term isn't a used Universal wording for predators. So to state the Lion as the SuperPredator while the Hyena is stated as Predator, but in reality we know that either animal can gain the advantage. 8)<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><hr></blockquote><br /><br /><br /><br />I don't know which is more annoying, that explaination or that smilie.......yep it's both. wasn't postachuscus and/or sarsichus superpredators?