Well I can understand that last part about CGI, especially for those who don't look kindly on those types of things, but the choreography by Nick Gillard was good. I did see some flaws and a bit of "stick bashing," but no cinematic fight is ever without them. One part that sticks out in my mind is when they were twirling their sabers right in front of each other, while standing about 2 inches apart(and making no hits). The part right after was cool, but that twirling part was a little unbelievable(in the negative way). However, overall, it was a great job. It was exciting and had emotion in it, even though you knew how it had to end.
P.S. Trust me, I've been putting together fight choreography for my fanfilms over a year, and it's not so easy to put together a fight that's both exciting and believable.
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I wont doubt the fight scenes, but sometimes it's just too much. Either they tried too hard or they just couldn't do the job correctly. The only thing that really bothers me about the fight scene in Episode III was all the CGI surrounding the characters. Then followed by the famous "NNOOOOOOO." The horrible and sappy love story that was done all wrong in my honest opinion. Lucas can’t show emotion worth sh*t in his prized character, Ani.
If you look at it, Lucas had about 20 - 30 years to come up with the prequels. He should have thought of something better. Not just something that he can pull out of his ass because he knows it'll make money.
If you look at it, Lucas had about 20 - 30 years to come up with the prequels. He should have thought of something better. Not just something that he can pull out of his ass because he knows it'll make money.
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In that case, I understand what you mean. I only questioned you because you seemed to be doubting the fighting itself.
I can understand your concern when the actors are almost the only things really there. I admit that the "NOOOOOO" really made me cringe the first time I saw it. I haven't seen AotC in a while(I plan too soon), so I can't really comment on the love story.
Overall, I understand your standings. I guess I just don't like to analyze these things, but I really think I just don't mind them as much as a lot of other people do.
You have to admit that CGI is impressive these days. I mean Ian McKellen was commenting on X-3, and he spoke of new technology that allows you to change an actors age, appearance, etc, all digitally. (They're using it in X3 for Xavier and Magneto) I guess we won't know how well it's done until the movie is released..but still..
I can understand your concern when the actors are almost the only things really there. I admit that the "NOOOOOO" really made me cringe the first time I saw it. I haven't seen AotC in a while(I plan too soon), so I can't really comment on the love story.
Overall, I understand your standings. I guess I just don't like to analyze these things, but I really think I just don't mind them as much as a lot of other people do.
You have to admit that CGI is impressive these days. I mean Ian McKellen was commenting on X-3, and he spoke of new technology that allows you to change an actors age, appearance, etc, all digitally. (They're using it in X3 for Xavier and Magneto) I guess we won't know how well it's done until the movie is released..but still..
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Indeed. Too back they kill Scott Summers in the first 10 minutes of the script. Bastards.
As for the CGI, moderation is the key. Don't over due realistic CGI to it do the point where the CGI is so real it becomes unrealistic.
I think that’s what made Jurassic Park so successful. They used the best CGI at the time, but they didn’t over do it.
But I guess now that they can, they will abuse the CGI technology.
As for the CGI, moderation is the key. Don't over due realistic CGI to it do the point where the CGI is so real it becomes unrealistic.
I think that’s what made Jurassic Park so successful. They used the best CGI at the time, but they didn’t over do it.
But I guess now that they can, they will abuse the CGI technology.
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Yeah, it really just further screws with Cyclops' role in the series. I mean they've shut the X-Team's field leader into the background, and for what? To shine the spotlight on Wolverine.
I agree. Some things about too much texture etc. TPM and AotC had some really good CGI though. I mean Jar-Jar looked like he was really there in many of the shots. (Not all of them though.) And Yoda looked alright in AotC, but since then I have yet to see a good CGI texture job except Jurassic Park. I'm just ranting now so I'll move on.
I agree again. They used CGI when they knew they definitely could not pull it off with animatronics. Examples being the "Welcome to Jurassic Park" and most of the full-body dino scenes.
True, very true. I mean Ep III is indeed a prime example of going overboard. I say this because really, there were no completely real sets. Most of them had one or two things and then the rest was bluescreen. I mean, yeah they look spectacular, and there are a lot of things you wouldn't guess was fake, but the fact that you know EVERYTHING is CGI except the actors..(This started in AotC, whereas TPM had some real sets like the Naboo Hangar).
I have to wonder though, why CGI looks so fake now, and looks so real in older films. I always just chalked it up to less effort on the effects teams.
I agree. Some things about too much texture etc. TPM and AotC had some really good CGI though. I mean Jar-Jar looked like he was really there in many of the shots. (Not all of them though.) And Yoda looked alright in AotC, but since then I have yet to see a good CGI texture job except Jurassic Park. I'm just ranting now so I'll move on.
I agree again. They used CGI when they knew they definitely could not pull it off with animatronics. Examples being the "Welcome to Jurassic Park" and most of the full-body dino scenes.
True, very true. I mean Ep III is indeed a prime example of going overboard. I say this because really, there were no completely real sets. Most of them had one or two things and then the rest was bluescreen. I mean, yeah they look spectacular, and there are a lot of things you wouldn't guess was fake, but the fact that you know EVERYTHING is CGI except the actors..(This started in AotC, whereas TPM had some real sets like the Naboo Hangar).
I have to wonder though, why CGI looks so fake now, and looks so real in older films. I always just chalked it up to less effort on the effects teams.